If we’re lucky, the first date that we go on ends up leading to a second date, a third date, a fourth date, and eventually to something more permanent. It certainly feels great to have yourself validated by a person who’s excited to spend time with you again and again.
Then there are those dates that doesn’t lead to anything else, and you’re left wondering if it’s something you said or something you did.
Reddit user u/StandfordV certainly was curious about those kinds of dates, as evidenced by his post on the r/askgaybros subreddit. In his post, he asks what someone could sat on a first date that would immediately result in a “no second date.” The responses range from the most banal of reasons to the serious.
Reddit user u/henare says being asked “Have you always been this fat?” results in a “no second date” with him, as well as someone asking to go on a smoke break. Meanwhile, Reddit user u/essex_uk_93 says being asked questions that are too personal is the dealbreaker for him. Reddit user u/ShittyGuitarResponse, on the other hand, doesn’t like hearing about astrological signs and how they align.
The more serious responses are more political in nature. Three responses talked about how being a Trump supporter would definitely result in not getting asked out again, while four responses pointed out that any racism displayed on the first date would result in an immediate no from them.
Adam4Adam blog readers, we’re curious to hear about what your reasons would be to not see someone for a second date. Would the conversation revolving around astrological signs be too much for you? Or are you someone who could never think about seeing a Trump supporter ever again? Tell us your first date dealbreakers in the comments section below!
1. Talking making sex with passersby. 2. Egocentric. Selfish 3. Nagging guys 4. Drama Queens. Worsen when is a DL. 5. Too feminine. girly guys. 6. Talking about dirty. Filthy sex. This are a total turn off for me. I have walked away from a date. I told him to stop nagging about how expensive the food was. He pick up the place on first place. So why complain now. A guy was telling me he owed more then 100k$ on student loans. But he have 3 PHDs. And he was working with especial nerd children. I say to him.… Read more »
Short and sweet. Any kind of body odor. Bad breath is enough to stop the date right from the start. Another deal breaker as a versatile top is a dirty bottom during anal sex.
Get over yourself. You play in the mud, you get mud on you! DA
Hygiene is a big issue for me while having anal sex – and it should be. Having Anal sex and an accident happens can be messy and embarrassing to the bottom or at least for me and will kill the mood. Even if you’re wearing a condom, it can be a huge mess. The best tops may prefer a clean hole, but most of them know that sometimes the body behaves outside of one’s control — even after an hour of cleaning. Whether you are a total top or a total bottom or versatile, be less afraid of shit.
Dishonesty is cause for me to walk off a first date immediately. “Dan” hit me up, His profile had no pic. His profile description stated “Muscular, with a few extra pounds.” My recent pics, full body with face, confirm my profile description, “swimmer’s” type body. We seemed to connect in chat & Dan wanted sex, ASAP. I repeated what my profile states, “Meet in person before agreeing to having sex.” We agreed to meet at a local coffee shop. I guessed I got there first because only a few gals were there. The only guy there was a HUGE, morbidly… Read more »
Wow Brent…I hear you! I had the exact same experience. And he was equally as rude. I don’t know why in the world they would think we’d accept them after they lied to us. I hope your dating experiences have been better since then. Mildly better for me.
LOL sounds like more than half of the “Catfish” from the hysterical show. Like Framel AKA “Marq with a Q”. Using a club promoter’s photos – in person, about the size of Colorado!
Lying there, on the phone, telling lies and covered up half-truths; It will grow until my mind is devoured by it but chapel hood people
For me what’s important is what is going on between a guy’s ears … as well as between his legs. If I first date can not carry on a conversation about a general topic, he is not getting a second chance. Any guy who takes the lead in a conversation and asks me questions is definitely a guy I am interested in.
One of the things that would make a person not get a second date from me will be 1.) Asking about money 2.) paying attention to your cell phone instead of me and 3.) having any type of body odor
That’s three things.
Drugs, smoking, poppers, if you “DL” and/or bi, or if you want an open relationship…
Guess you gotta have a gay gay boy huh – no Bi . Cuz like you got something everyone wants . Get over self . Typical gay bitch
Wow, calling him a “gay bitch” just because he prefers a guy that’s out of the closet not hiding behind a faceless profile or wife with children. Me myself I could still date an openly bi guy, as long we’re both good together, no drama, cheating, etc. Open relationships to me is like you’re better off single and mingle all you want.
I can understand the drugs and maybe having an open relationship as being deal breakers but the rest not so much.
“Or are you someone who could never think about seeing a Trump supporter ever again?”
Or are you someone who could never think about seeing a Lefty, Progressuve, Liberal ever again? (or any other political affiliation which is not you)
I have buds from several political camps. Politics is not a deal breaker for us. It could well be by anyone consumed by Political-based Hate, of course. Or anyone who lives to keep hate and division alive.
I could never date a Trump supporter. Like I could never date a racist.
Why Dave? Are you intolerant of people who think differently than you? That would be really hateful to act superior to someone for something so petty.
I am intolerant to racists, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, and Trumpists yeah…
Then what you said above is hypocritical is what.
It is not intolerant to be intolerant of intolerant people. Nor does tolerance require one to tolerate someone who would do you harm or infringe on your rights.
Politics and the public policies which come out of it are far from “petty” issues. They decide who gets treated how in society. Someone’s personal political leaning tells you fundamental things about that person: what they care about, their level of selfishness (or selflessness), and their moral steering. How could I ever date someone who supports blatant lying, white supremacy, and bigotry towards trans people?
Matt G, I can totally see your point. I couldn’t date a man that I was so at odds with. I, unfortunately, attract the assholes, cheaters, liars, and deadbeats! Although the last one had me completely fooled. After 7b years of marriage he informs me he is leaving me for a man he met online a week earlier, then proceeds to confess to cheating throughout the entire relationship! I was clueless. Karma was swift however and the guy he left me for kicked him to the curb a week later for someone more attractive. when he came crawling home with… Read more »
i could never date anyone who supports 45 or any other republican politician or political figure. thats utterly disgusting to me
I understand not dating the racist white nationalist so called president, but you aught to rethink about casting all Republicans together. U wouldn’t cast all gays together would? Some Republicans are sane. As a progressive I routinely vote for a state senator that is Republican. I actually agree with a lot of what he says and the way he votes. When I don’t he has a clearly stated reason why he doesn’t. Also one party government is not good for you town, county, state or nation is good.
Considering that about 90% of Republicans approve of Trump and the other 10% don’t have the balls to speak out, it really isn’t terribly unfair to lump all Republicans together.
I think both parties are messed up! We need to put an end to career politicians! We need candidates who work for the people and not their party and its agendas. There was a time when politicians did not get paid for holding office. Then when they started to pay them their pay was based on their performance. Now they spend soo much time trying to outdo the other that the American people
‘s wants and needs aren’t even a concern anymore!
Politics does matter because I wouldn’t date a guy that thinks Trump is so awesome lol! It wouldn’t be fair for the date of the opposing party either. Why would I date a guy that thinks I’m a “libtard” or a sjw just because I voted blue? Red team seem to be the ones getting offended at every single thing. I don’t need to hear how “Obama ruined things” all the time.
If you all remember Bill Clinton may have had some ethical issues but when he left office America was in the black! We had a surplus! Something we have not seen since.
You may or you may not possess Nathan’s ample dick, but you certainly have his backbone.
You, truly, love to stir the post; rail up sleeping dogs; ignite the audience; augment the distempered, and elicit a response from Dave.
I admire it and you! We are on the same page if, sometimes, on a different part of the same page.
Keep up the good work and continue to write freely…out of respect to those, of us, who rest, well and safely, on their backs, wearing their respective Dress Uniforms
Thank you, sir! Agreed! I understand I can stir the pot. My radical views that the stereotypical brand of gay does not fit the majority of gay men is troublesome for some. Gay guys are not all diva/pop music lovers, concerned with high fashion, chained to the lives of Hollywood or music industry elite, fem, young, urban, single, trendy, Liberal, or free wheeling when it comes to sex (hookups). Many gay guys don’t fit many of the terms of that model. It’s fine if they do, of course. But look at profiles on A4A. Gay guys come in many builds,… Read more »
Amen! I served my country. I believe in monogamy, a hard day’s work, and I HATE labels. When I introduce myself I don’t say “Hi, I am gay and my name is Donovan.” I say “Hello, my name is Donovan.” Being gay is just a part of what makes me who I am, it certainly does not define me. I don’t use being gay as a badge of honor. I have other things about me that I would rather talk about like chasing my dreams and seeing them all come true!
I would agree that polical based hate is a turn off from either right or left. But if I feel someone’s values are clearly not in sync with mine I’m unlikely to want to pursue a relationship with that person.
Thank you for saying this. I’m happy when I see “no Trump supporters” in a guy’s profile. It lets me know right away that he is a narrow-minded, ignorant, virtue-signaling douchebag who is to be avoided at all costs.
lol, good coz he doesn’t want to know you either.
The same can be said about Trump supporters too. Funny you said that, because Trump is all that you described of me.
From my experience, anyone from Trump’s camp, holds all non-Republicans accountable for any Democrat’s policy and vote. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander! Once they answer for the UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws and discrimination they literally wrote against us, shut up. You have no room to defend these people and, frankly, I’m done watching people who self hate themselves without even realizing it stand up for these asshats to continue their terrorizing and victimization of population subgroups. You all are better than that.
dating a trump supporter: it’s like choosing to date satan.
Before Trump, I’d always had friends with different political views, and it was never an issue. Sure, I sometimes would have passionate political arguments with people who had different views, but even when we fervently disagreed, it didn’t matter much; friendship always came first. Sometimes I would even change someone’s mind about an issue, or have my own mind changed. The thing is, Trump is a different animal entirely. His politics IS the politics of hate and division. The politics of destroying the political opposition and never even trying for a compromise. He’s a bully who encourages his supporters to… Read more »
Why would I a black date a racist or someone who supports such? You should want to date someone from another race if you hate them. That’s stupid. I have better thing to do than support hatred. Politics do matter, be careful who you support.
Doesn’t like or allergic to animals (sorry but that just won’t work), Log Cabin Republican or Trump supporter and if he’s rude to wait staff and service people.
You just inspired me to put “Trump supporter” on my profile so as to not waste people like your’s time as well as mine.
How much space do I have?!? Things that guarantee no second date: Using a cellphone while on a date. Any history of meth use. Any history of being “in recovery.” Poor personal hygiene of any kind (odors, bad teeth, long nails, scraggly hair, etc). Belief in a god or gods. History of marriage to a woman. Existence of any children, whether biological or adopted. “Bisexual.” “Coming out” after teen years. Smoking. Large or numerous tattoos. Evidence of affected hyper-masculinity. Evidence of steroid use. Evidence of plastic surgery, dyed hair, or hair transplants. Driving a car with a purchase price greater… Read more »
Wow, thats a lot. Being in recovery seems rather unfair, esp if he’s been sober for many years. And I’m sure guys lie to you about any past meth use if they sense how judgmental you are about it. Coming out after teen years (and even having been with a woman or having children) is the one that most bothered me most though. People are still raised in very homophobic environments, it seems crazy to me that you would dismiss someone who might not have come out until his 20s or later.
Sam, I agree. The best friend that I have, the first friend to 100% fully support and accept me, the friend who is always there for me, in my corner, was both an alcoholic and a drug addict. For a long time I couldn’t figure out why he seemed a mess. However, after a life-changing incident, he sobered up, got clean, went to therapy, and regularly attends AA and NA meetings. It took him a long time to share with me, and he had so much shame about it, it would appear no one was there for him when he… Read more »
John E , You must be lonely. and perfect too.
Sam, I have to agree with you. I adopted 3 children and gave them a good life and the two boys are older now and have their own families and my last one is my 13-year old daughter who is already participating in medical school coursework. I have had her since birth and my oldest son is her biological sibling. I was turned off to John E immediately because of that. Parenting is hard work but the most rewarding thing you will ever do in life. I like to plan time to see where each other live and if they… Read more »
Wow I guess someone would have to be so luck to live up your list of preconceived expectations to even get a slight chance of you – NOT TOO Shallow – ARE YA ?
Oh BTW Cut the shit . I doubt you are anything close to perfection . And honestly would anyone even Waste their time with all your nonsense
Get over yourself !
Let me guess. You’re single and rarely date.
“I could go on for pages!” says a lot about you
Apparently the guy you’re looking for hasn’t been made as yet or has he #life size doll… your life must be sad… sitting around judging people #he without sin cast the first stone
If he calls his penis a proper name, I’m out of there.
I refer to my penis as “Russell, The Love Mussel.”
Giving one’s penis a Name is just a sign of respect for what it is and what it does.
Remember, God gave his male creations one and we should rejoice and give it a dutiful name.
I agree with the cell phone thing, as well as weight. Honesty is important to me. All top or all bottom is a turn off as well. I like to mix things up and don’t want relegated to one position for the remainder of my relationship. Egotistical, self-absorbed are out as well.
When the guy comes on as masculine but during the date, the purse, dress, and lipstick fall out of his mouth.
Though I am quite a reserved fellow, a date may take place only if he asks me first, himself. Given that, sometimes he may have something on his page that may prevent even the first meet and greet. Those things whether on his page or the first date may include racial divisions or other things such as, “please be sane.” What if I have a mental or emotional disorder but am self-aware and take care of myself? I think to be cognizant of myself and surroundings outweighs having the devisive disorder to begin with: I take care of myself. This… Read more »
If a guy is sitting there at the table and we’re out on a Dinner date or any kind of date and he starts picking up his Cell phone and starts texting or calling other people, Thats a Deal Breaker! I’ll get up and leave right then and there.
I have a strong stomach, but the one thing that WILL upset it is…BODY ODOR! If a man smells bad he is subsequently shown my door. Never gonna be a second because there will be no first.
For years I never used deodorant and had legions of hot boys stick their nose in my armpits and wax poetically about how wonderful the scent was. Oh yeah I’ve been married (legally since 2013) for 26 years to a hot guy with a PhD that banks 400K a year. We still have sex 2-3 times a week too !
How about asking, in terms to, and of, standards? So many are outlandish as hell, very few are realistic; too many men are too trivial to wanna make the effort to try to one-up and possibly sharpen their game…
Hygiene, upkeep and physical appearance are big deal breakers for me. Anyone who begs to differ, can argue with themselves…
Assuming I’m attracted to the guy, these traits can still be deal-breakers:
1. Rude to service workers (or anyone)
2. Only brings up negative topics
3. Too involved in cell phone
4. Unable to listen as well as talk
5. Talking too much about work
6. Emitting any pompous, arrogant, sociopathic or egocentric energy
7. Checking out other guys (especially out loud)
Signing onto a dating app – more insultingly, the one we met on – in front of me. Can’t your hoe ass wait until after the drink(s) or whatever, or excuse yourself for a BS reason to see who’s available at the moment? Go right ahead and arrange something else because you’re already outta gas in my lane. A dirty mind is a TERRIBLE thing to waste and I’d be 99% less bothered if you signed on to PornHub, XTube or whichever adult video website you frequent.
I’m a pretty easy going guy but if he invites me out he has to plan a real date. Not starbucks for a coffee. Its a prett good screening device for me.
So the easy going guy won’t go on a coffee date. Makes sense. Enjoy the single life, girl!!!
SMOKING and drug use are deal breakers for me.
Smoking is repulsive….
I agree don’t do flimflams
I cant fuck with fem dudes, I as a BLK MASTER LIKE MY BOYS 100% MASCULINE DISCREET BOTTOMS
So the deal breaker would always be a fem dude
I don’t understand them nor can I relate to them
I like to dominate a brother so I am only turned on by a natural masculine blk men who even if they are sucking my dick or getting fisted by me are still strong masculine brothers.
Also smoking and drug use, I dislike those 3 things.
If the guy shows up in flip-flops, it’s dead in the water. I’ll get through the cafe meet (I would never do a meal on a first date/meet & greet) and then, I won’t see him, again. The good news is that flip-flops are waning as a fashion trend, but anyone who thinks it’s a “shoe” is one less trailer trash I don’t need to know. Everyone has their idiosyncrasies and this one is a definite deal-breaker with me (no matter how smart, interesting, good-looking, etc.).
Interesting … that is one of my deal-breakers, too. I mean, it is one thing if we were meeting at a beach-side cafe in the middle of the afternoon, but in Manhattan? Come on.
Well, after reading the above commentary, I have to say, it is funny in a sad way, how stereotypical some of these responses have become. As I struggle to get through what some of these gentlemen consider English, I find idiosyncratic dislikes. First, most of us look in the mirror each day and see our BEST qualities, and we exacerbate those throughout our life. From outside forces, we are told we are handsome, athletic, or assessed on physicality. If we are not considered generally handsome, we often compensate by becoming expert at a task. Many academics here call themselves NERD,… Read more »
Well said. I totally agree.
Anyone who brings up politics on a first date is out. Both sides of the political spectrum are full of morons and I have no patience for any of it.
Until 2016, I would have agreed with you about no politics or religion on the first date. But, now I think it is a must so that I don’t waste any more time on a guy who turns out to be a Trumpist or a gay evangelical (yeah, they exist, but they tend to be so messed-up that you want to keep your distance).
What’s a date? I’d say clingy. Smokes are out but they’re not even going to get a first date.
I knew of this hairdresser through my grandmother. She would often go to him to get her hair done. We met once or twice in passing, and thought nothing more of it. Years later, we met and remembered who the other was. The old woman suggested to me – strangely, days earlier – that I should go out with this guy because “he’s your type” (even though he’s not.) The man and I agreed to give it a try, but in the more recent days, we had only communicated by online chat. He and I got together for a non-date,… Read more »
A deal breaker would be checking his cell phone, smells bad, rotten teeth and if his appearance doesn’t come close to his profile pic. I would be polite, but no second date. Drug use is a problem for me as well as calling me honey, dear and sweetheart. We are men, lets be men. I guess I am picky. lol
No you aren’t picky. You have your likes and dislikes just like everyone else HONEY lol
Someone, who lacks EMPATHY, racists: blk or wht or anything in btw, elitists, “holier than thou’s”, sexists, the “anything goes people-no boundaries”, those/w short attention-spans, cruel-rude people, pig-pens, bad hygiene, trump supporters, non-monogamous guys that are just looking for sex, period, on a date, non intelligent-foolish, shallow guys, complete-btms or complete tops, those that are: chemically dependent or alcoholics, narrow-minded, ignorant.
If he says one bad thing about Bette Midler or Cher . . . well, just unacceptable, and I’m out of there.
Marc Summers – I would say if he said one GOOD thing about either Bette Middler or Cher LOL! But that’s just me (guess we won’t be dating…..? 🙂
Reading these comments, mainly about cellphone use, is very eye-opening. As a Southerner, the human company should be the MAIN focus, date or non-date. Politics shouldn’t be a topic of choice on any date especially at the beginning of a relationship until each one knows the other better. Racist remarks aren’t acceptable and gay men backbiting about other gays make them no better than non-gay backbiting. Gays know the struggle of most gays and to belittle them is very unacceptable. I go to restaurants that I love the wait staff and they love me and my folks. So, no dissing… Read more »
I’m sorry but you sound boring and arrogant. Chain of command. Jesus Christ.
It’s so Not even daunting to me the the Pure Shallownrss and arrrogance in nature of way too many esp Gay men It’s A ll this BS and the preconceived expectations that you all put on anyone to try to acheive (& the Audacity too) .. or reach b4 you even meet with them or to give them a slight chance yet to only show much of a arrogant truly fucked up prick you are that you think anyone should try to meet your nonsense “ standards Esp If about looks -Pretty packaged can have usually Alot of Ugly horrible… Read more »
I would not ever consider dating a smoker or a drug user. As shallow as it sounds I would not date any one that is obese. I can accept a few pounds on a guy. I even prefer it over too skinny…but if you are 40 pounds or more overweight….not happening.
As for some guys saying a DL guy is not acceptable. To me, a guy on the DL is just looking for sex and not dating or a relationship. But the same turnoffs apply to just a hook up as it does to dating for me.
As to the “DL” thing. I am private about my private life. Not secretive or ashamed. Just private. Doesn’t mean I am hiding something from someone. Just not providing irrelevant information to others who don’t belong in my personal business.
Just say discreet and private. I’m not Dl just don’t like people in my business, whether it’s gay or straight relationship. The only person need to be in my business is the one I’m dating.
Learned long ago to pack up your cultural baggage and roll up your moral rug–open your mind–close mindedness is definetly a no go
!. Lack of communication skills. Been on dates with guys who think questions such as “Where did you grow up?” are akin to asking for his last 10 years of tax returns. I’m a journalist so I tend to be inquisitive, but just interested in finding out more about a guy, if I like his general disposition. 2. Staring at everything in Levi’s that walks by while allegedly on a date with me. I’m miles away from an egomaniac, but this seems stupid, rude, passive-aggressive. If you’re not interested in being on this date, just say. “I’m sorry. This isn’t… Read more »
I know this is going sound really superficial and everything above are potential dealers.
Butttttttt, an uncut penis with an overly long foreskin is a turnoff. I mean, a total anteater. I watched some porn last night. The top had a beautiful face and perfectly sculpted body but he had an anteater for a penis.
So, even with my average looks, age, and slight padding around the middle, I’d have to pass.
Just a preference <>.
GOOD! More anteaters for me. Enjoy your mutilated penises, weirdo.
When a man can’t smile and laugh, that’s a serious deal-breaker for me. Not the obnoxious loud “look at me, I’m important and the center of attention” laugh, but that warm, funny, sincere laugh that comes from within. Those with those grim faces or when the face is straining to prevent a smile or laugh, I know it won’t work. I meet a lot of men simply by their laugh. From there, the hope is they can hold a conversation about anything; offer some back and forth; OK with being challenged and agree to disagree, but leave out the hostility… Read more »
Some of these posts I find entertaining, funny, occasionally news worthy and mostly dumb, but this one has been like that “good book” you just can’t put down………. I have found it to be most truthful…………………….. Being gay is hard enough and finding someone to be with, spend time with or fall in love with is 99.9% very difficult, so I do understand the “selling” we have to do to even get a first date, let a lone a second………… That being said, here are my top three, I know I have others, but these will never get me past… Read more »
Before a first date can happen: non smoker non drug user HIV negative There must be some sense of physical attraction and some sense of compatible personalities. They must be willing to meet in person in a neutral place, like a coffee shop. Before a second date can happen: The first meeting has to have gone well, in terms of punctuality, behavior, conversation, and honesty in appearance and situation. This is the time to see what the sexual chemistry might be like. If all goes well on the second date, then things can develop as the two guys want–fuck buddy,… Read more »
I met both of my long term husbands in sleazy sex environments. One at a street corner for hustlers and the other a bath house.
I certainly my own deal breakers, and I will cite them. But first, I want to emphasize that as gay men, we have a perfectionstic tendency to find fault, almost immediately on a date. I mean the inner judgment and chatter, where we quietly judge his every gesture, hands, skin, eyes, voice, etc..to see if he meets our impossible criteria to continue dating or not. We can become possibility killers almost immediately. we say” I knew from the first 30 seconds, if he was the one or not”? Really? even psychologists wait 2-3 sessions before we make an assessment assessment.… Read more »
I’d say smoker but only if I didn’t already know—if I had he;d have never have gotten the first date.
I don’t really watch professional sports on television. That only would lead to misery, having to fix. By no means various I’m saying crotch problem. If you feel like something right in your ear, have it checked amount, name aspen or first tree in other ways, we would Handel and that’s the end. My price is only worth that of a postage sticker. And happy St. Patrick’s day as well.
A guy not being open minded and able to handle a Foot Massage, or being freaked out by it, would ABSOLUTLY end a 2nd possible date from happening
1. Republicans: I am a black gay male boomer who dates men of color. Not compromising my humanity for anyone and dont give passes to minority Trump fanboys. 2. DL/Bisexual/Partnered/Married: Don’t want their bad karma fallout landing on me. 3. Cell addicts. Pay attention to either me or the cellphone. If it’s the latter, I’ll immediately exit wishing them a lovely evening 3. Bad Breath 3. Body odor/Ineffective douching 4. Poor grooming: Nose hair, untrimmed beard or mustache. 5. Jacked Feet. It’s 2020. No excuse 6. Shop talkers. Great on a interview. Boring on a date. If he can’t separate… Read more »
be a TRUMP REPUBLICAN = quickest way to lose me
not splitting the days and nights 50/50
#1 finding out he is married or partnered
#2 drunk or high
#3 douched in cologne
#4 if it is a blind date from a site discovering he looks nothing like his profile photo or description
My dealbreakers are they are on cell phone all the time, doesn’t drink alcohol, if they are religious with no room for tolerance for other beliefs, complete bottom or top (I’m verse myself), only into monogamy (been in an open relationship for almost 20 years now and married for the past 4), extreme intolerance, if they are not into kissing, majorly lie, major obesity, and Trump supporters
It’s so rare to get an actual date with anyone in the era of fast sex that anyone that agrees to one is prob going to put some effort into it so I’m not really concerned about body odors or what not. I do preferred to go on a non dinner date first to see the guy on a more relaxed setting where we can both show more of our true self, for better or worse. Other than that I tend to go for the second date if the guy is attractive and pleasant to be with and reciprocates interest.… Read more »