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Sex without kissing: is it a dealbreaker for you?
We are asking because a gay man on r/askgaybros asked, “Why don’t DL guys kiss?” He added, “I mean really what’s the issue when they’re already sucking my dick, eating ass and getting fucked? Most have said to me that kissing is gay or too gay for them.”
Many have speculated on the forum, and the answers reveal a range of perspectives. One user humorously noted, “It’s gay/intimate—they be Simone Biles with their mental gymnastics.” Indeed, for some gay men, not just DL men for that matter, kissing seems to evoke a level of intimacy that feels “too gay.”
Another popular opinion is that kissing feels more personal than sexual acts. As one commenter put it, “It’s hard to avoid eye contact when you’re kissing someone. Faces convey a lot of emotions, and that might be what scares them.” For them, trying to maintain a sense of heterosexual normality, avoiding kissing is a way to keep emotions and vulnerability at bay.
There are also stories of awkward encounters. One user shared, “I hooked up with this super masc DL guy. He said he didn’t kiss, so we fucked. He wanted me to meet again, and I said only if he kissed. He ‘tried,’ but his idea of trying was me kissing his motionless lips. Ugh. Never again.”
Some suggest this avoidance is rooted in internalized homophobia or a distorted sense of masculinity. DL men may see kissing as “too romantic,” which could make them feel they’re crossing a line they aren’t ready to acknowledge. As one commenter bluntly noted, “They think being intimate damages their manhood.”
But does the no-kissing rule bother you? Would it be a dealbreaker in your hookups or relationships? Many see kissing as a natural, passionate extension of sex. For others, the lack of emotional connection makes the encounter feel incomplete.
For some, the “no kissing” policy creates a dynamic where the other partner feels like nothing more than a physical outlet. “It’s simple,” another gay commenter wrote. “They don’t want to build an emotional connection with their fuck toys.”
So, Adam4Adam readers, what’s your take? Is not kissing a dealbreaker for you? Or does it not matter if the chemistry is there in other ways? Lastly, have you ever hooked up with a DL guy? Do they refused to kiss like what OP said?
Share your thoughts and stories with us in the comments section down below.
I don’t “do” dl’s or men that are too cold to share that kind of affection, but actually, I’ve heard of gay men, too, who don’t kiss, but their mouths are all over ass like syrup on pancakes, go figure!
If you don’t kiss, you’re off my list!
hall and oates – “kiss on my list”
I totally agree!
If you are not going to make out passionately with me, forget about getting together. I’m a good looking guy and an exceptional kisser. Making out gets me rock hard and ready for anything.
Let’s do that!
Same!!!
This article promotes the notion of “Down-Low-Phobia”, a notion that is as judgmental and hateful as Homophobia and Transphobia. Too many Gays (and others who are LGTBQ+) demand that they be unequivocally accepted for who they are with absolutely no social requirements for their behavior. But then they’ll turnaround and decree that Down Low Guys (guys who have wives, who they may or may not have sex with, who have sex with other men) live lives as liars and scum because they keep their sex lives out of public view. This article further promotes the notion that Down Low guys… Read more »
Isn’t it ironic.
What do you mean “Down Low Phobia” lol. No one should want to deal with someone who isn’t secure in their sexuality. DL men are not victims. They make the decision to be disconnected and using people to suit their shallow needs. They lack emotion… why would anyone want to waste the time? Because they can’t take the chance to actually wanting what they do in secret? It’s no one’s problem DL live and act like they do. If someone doesn’t want to be involved with a DL man because of ALL the proven things they do or don’t do,… Read more »
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with much that you’ve said, I mean, what’s the difference btw an openly bisexual man and one who is a dl? Honesty, with oneself and who ever their sexual encounters are? Then on top of that, you don’t kiss either? Then what the fuck do you consider me or any other man to be; with no real affection shown (kissing) is part of physical intimacy isn’t it? I would consider myself, to be allowing for, less than I’m worth, to myself, firstly, ok? That’s just one case of getting “caught-up” in one’s sexuality . . . I’ve heard,… Read more »
“No one should want to deal with someone who isn’t secure in their sexuality”
Who made you the judge of what others should or should not want to deal with?!
I personally am not into kissing or making out. And, no, it’s not because of “internalized homophobia”. It’s just not my thing. And I prefer to connect with others who also don’t need/want to have to kiss to have fun. If that other guy turns out to be DL, in the closet, private, then that’s all good with me. To each his own.
“Two sides to every pancake.” I agree with you too, just “know thy self” and therefore, do not engage with someone that’s not “in the same headspace”- sexually.
There’s somebody/s for everyone
That’s why conversations have to be had in the negotiating process “let’s talk about sex, baby, let’s talk about me you, baby.” (Salt & Peppa) lol.
Exactly!
Why should we be subjected to something or someone that does not compromise and clearly expects us to compromise.
Boz Scaggs – “Lowdown”
While all DL men cannot he classified as “Men who don’t like to kiss,” a vast number of them are. However I personally don’t consider not compromising my sexual desires a form of discrimination/being judgmental and certainly that’s not the same as homophobia or transphobia, coz no one would actually want to harm you for not wanting to kiss, for me I’ll simply ask you to leave or find someone else that would be willing to accommodate your preferences, just as I would seek out someone else that enjoys the same things as I do or who is at-least willing… Read more »
But then this never happens to me personally coz I don’t deal with DL men for reasons such as this topic which is simply about kissing nothing too deep to delve into lol…and that’s the answer to this solution, leave DL men to deal with their own kind and men who like to kiss with other men that like to kiss…end of story we all live happily ever after.
Find passionate guys that aren’t afraid to show it.
Which is never an issue, if you meet a DL guy who doesn’t like to kiss a nice, fresh, clean mouth ask him to leave politely don’t waste each other’s time and call over that community gay guy that loves to please in every way. Lol
I tend toward passionate, affectionate sex so hot kissing is a big part of my enjoyment. A hot tongue in my mouth takes me from zero to 60 in a second|!
I had a wonderful guy whose tongue would go stiff and erect and plunge in and out of my mouth. It was so erotic.
If you don’t want to kiss, I’m not taking your cock. It’s a fuck, not a marriage.
I GET THIS A LOT………..
“I DO NOT KISS…..BUT I WILL EAT YOUR RIPE/DIRTY ASS FROM THE GYM”……………..
A REASONABLE SUBSTITUTE? LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!!
I don’t do kissing with strangers.
I also find that I consider it a very man/woman thing, not man/man thing.
I really don’t understand why anyone would want their tongue in my mouth either… kissing never appealed to me. It’s not pleasant for me.
I’d rather just keep things simple and safe with the only intimate contact being with a condom.
You sound like the lamest fuck that ever existed, aside from Mother Hennepin.
Germaphobe, perhaps I get that, that’s a psychological/mental condition, I’m a little like that without the extreme, however. Any hint of odor as a oppose to scent; is more than I can stand or want.
I agree Lamar. I’m fully aware as well!!! I’m testing the waters first and take it from there.
Agree 100% !
I was originally weird about it , then a guy was kissing my neck and slipped me his tongue, I was all in after
Kissing is what gets me hard! The more passionate the better
Not all guys know how to kiss DL or otherwise! If your kiss looks stank from the start, I’m not into it. I’ve had guys approach me for kissing with their tongue out. No deal!
Yeah, that’s not attractive or kills the desire.
I love to kiss passionately, but understand that some guys aren’t into it, so I ask. It’s the first exchange of body fluid, and our tongues in each others’ mouths I find super hot. Even hotter is when we both shoot in each others’ mouths and snowball, mixing our loads; I salivate like crazy then!
Kissing is very intimate, I personally don’t kiss every sex partner I have. The ones I’m really attracted to or have feelings for, I do.
First of all, you should treat anyone you are having sex with like a whole, real person, so, yes, kissing is part of that, unless they have bad breath or were just licking your asshole.
If the encounter is in a random public place, glory hole, etc., then kissing is not required. I look at it as just a hook up and get off event.
Butt – if we’re dating or fwb/regulars, then there must be some level of intimacy, including kissing.
As a DL married guy, if the guy (married or gay) isn’t into kissing it is a deal breaker for me. When I hookup with a guy I want it all both the sex and passion of a kissing. But the I am not into blo-n-go hookups. To be honest I have found most guys (gay or “straight” DL) don’t kiss. The reason given by gay guys is that it’s reserved for a boyfriend or partner and too intimate for casual sex. DL guys guv rd all kinds of reasons but I believe the are basically insecure in their masculinity.
I’m Bi on the DL. The only time I ever kissed is when I hooked up with a Trans that had all the trimmings sexy as hell and a sexy CD.
just don’t KISS UGLIES like ME, and you be JUST FINE, honey!
sometimes kissin demm FROGGZ ain’t good! LEARN PLEASE!
Never mess with DL men they entail the most drama and mess out of the entire umbrella.
I let it be known that I enjoy a man’s kiss when I meet potential playmates, and maybe half say that’s not for them. Ok, I’ll still suck their cocks. But the guys who are into it….oh yeah, that goes to another level! I love kissing a woman too, but kissing with another man is so exciting. The sensations are so much more intense. A man knows how he wants to be kissed, and he delivers that so he can get it back. I can cum just from a good intense kissing session with a guy.
Excellent point, Nooram. You have some discussion with potential playmates prior to jumping into sex. How many guys in posts here report, “I hooked up with a guy and it turned out … (fill in the blank: he or his place was filthy, we were both tops or bottoms, he hated kissing, he wanted you to serve him with nothing in it for you, etc.)? Before you agree on a meeting place and time, invest in “so, what do you like to do when it comes to being with a guy?” Guys who don’t do that and then whine later… Read more »
I love kissing!!! Absolutely if I’m turned on by the dude and his breath is good.
I won’t waste my precious time! Life’s is just too short to play head games in expressing one’s sexual emotions. Kissing is delicious especially with another man that you’re feeling! Either you like the male’s anatomy or you don’t. Besides, lips are so very sexy and lips demands attention for every aspect of sexual love making. It all start with that first kiss…and then move way, way, down to his south pole region. As I said above, I simply won’t waste my time playing head games; nor for those “gay for pay dudes”; they go right along with all those… Read more »
For me, it depends on the vibe between us. Sometimes it’s just swapping oral or fucking but sometimes it’s full on passionate sex with kissing. I love it all. And if a guy wants to kiss me with my load in his mouth that is so hot!
In the age of COVID, and who knows what else, kissing is a hard NO.
I just need to know before hand
That’s exactly where I am. Just let me know the dynamic before we meet (am I bottom, safe only, kiss, and maybe a fwb) and I’m good. It’s the surprises that get me off the encounter beam I e., no show, they’re a bottom not a top, they don’t like rubbers, they don’t like foreplay). I shut down and usually move on.
Gotta say in my experiences with DL men (I’ve had my share) they ALWAYS kiss and are very passionate…guess I’m lucky, actually it’s the Gay guys that can be cold and just want to fuck?..go figure?…I do think (like the article says) some men feel that “kissing is a way of building an emotional connection”. SO stupid…it’s a kiss NOT marriage proposal!
I love kissing if i get some tongue on my neck and in my mouth i am ready to have a hot session as a bottom i love to kiss it sets the mood.
Kissing for me is a must, makes the encounter so much more intimate , nothing as hot as an extended makeout session before getting naked
I like kissing but… Kissing, for me, is about chemistry – sometimes you have it with the other person; most times not. Besides, most men are horrible kissers – really awful. DL men are my favorite sex partner and many don’t kiss, which is fine with me. However, if you’re a great top, such as myself , all that goes out the window once the lights go down. I know how to get them to so turned on that both holes open up for just about anything. When you take the DL guy to that sexual place he’s never been,… Read more »
I’m a DL married man , very masculine and dominant, but behind closed doors with a man I’m a very submissive bottom, I prefer masculine dominant tops, I have never been into kissing men, I have had tops that have tried to kiss me and I turned away, but I have also had some dominant tops that have held my face still and demanded me to give him my tongue, and it actually turned me on, but only because the men was dominant and man enough to let me know I was not the man I am at home in… Read more »
Kissing another guy is hotter than f***. need to be somewhat attracted, but it turns me on in a major way. Most guys kiss more passionately than my wife and I cant get enough!
I’m a DL 59y/o Bi guy and I absolutely LOVE to kiss!! I find kissing another guy incredibly hot! For me kissing is a must!!
Talked a DL into kissing one time by telling him it gets me so hard that now he’s wanting and waiting for me to pucker up
I’m an attached, DL total bottom. Here goes, lol… What was written in this article is pretty spot on. It’s often an awful amalgamation of a number of the things mentioned above. I don’t kiss men. I also don’t like rimming, giving or receiving. When I bottom for a man, I will suck his dick, and I will definitely get fucked. And for the RIGHT man, I will even ask to be BB’d and be bred, which I genuinely enjoy. That last one especially is seen as a significantly intimate act I would assume for a lot of people. Heath… Read more »
I agree, I’m a closet DL bottom, love kissing my wife , but not much into kissing men, although I have in some cases, but when I with a man I’m not there to make love, I’m enjoy suckind dick, and yes if the vibe is right, I will swallow his nut, and I to like to feel that natural dick, dick feels good with a condom, but most guys fuck the the way you need to be fucked with that raw dick,, I mean they will fuck you goooood, and especially when they drop that seed in my ass… Read more »
I’m an attached BI DL total TOP guy. I never liked kissing early on when hooking up and I never liked wet sloppy tongue kissing (I’m a bit of a germ-phobe since a kid). Now I’m into dry somewhat passionate kissing with hookups if they are into it. I’ve had out gay bottom cum sluts turn their face when I’ve attempted to kiss them, so it’s not a masculinity or DL issue. Some are just not okay with kissing and that is okay with me.
I think kissing is a must. Make me harder. Your right they can suck cock rim a man ass lick his arm pits but won’t kiss. Yes its a deal breaker
I met a …nice guy online….he was open in that he was waiting for his (surrogate) son to be born…and looking for a LTR… I was honest and told him I did not have any interest in having children in my life (I am 30 yrs older than this guy) and didn’t see much point in our meeting. He “insisted” we could be friends even FWB’s… both single at the time. So we met…yup ended up in bed ….NO he would not kiss…not a bad sex partner though. I did see him about 3 yrs later and he had the… Read more »
DL, bi, married to a woman here and I LOVE kissing! I love passionate sex and kissing/making out is hot and gets me going. It doesn’t mean I want a relationship, but a strong sexual connection makes a huge difference in the enjoyment of the hookup to me. I am also very open sexually and there is little that I won’t do or try. No, shit, piss, extreme pain, or anything that leaves a mark.
Nobody seems to mention that kissing is an extremely intimate act, and that it can spread disease, including many dental conditions (which should have a lot of preening swans paying attention). Some of us reserve kissing for committed relationships, and decide not to take the smell of another man’s breath (which might smell minty at first, but always carries his particular blend of oral flora) into our mouths. In fact, I knew one partner had been unfaithful when his breath changed, and I knew he had been kissing someone else. If a brand-new acquaintance insists on kissing, I already know… Read more »
Yep, deal breaker. I need the passion and excitement from kissing. Was with a guy for a while and my reaction to kissing him was “dude, relax the jaw.” A total turn off
Kissing is too intimate! We’re not dating.. we’re just having sex.. no you can’t and will not kiss me ! It’s just a hook up, leave your feelings out of it
I have a woman at home, I kiss her because I love her and we make love, well most times we fuck, but we’re very intimate,, but with men, if I’m laying on my stomach, he can kiss the back of my neck while he’s giving me that big dick, or maybe I can kiss and suck that pipe for him, but other than that, I just want that dick, and to swallow that seed, so if it any DL tops that’s not into kissing in Pineville Louisiana,, with them big dicks look me up
I have hooked up with several bi-man who did not kiss and I have hooked up with several gay men who do not kiss. For all of them, the kissing added a level of intimacy that they wanted to preserve for a lover. I make a rule to not hook with DL men and I now have a rule that if you can’t kiss, then I am a miss for you.